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• Allen

  NO! Keep the Crown Vic. One of the things that always hurt Malibu and Impala sales were the perception that they were cop rides. By making a Taurus a cop car you immediately kill the cool.

  The Crown Vic has to cost close to nothing to produce anymore, just keep stuffing the police with that crap and leave us our cool new Taurus!

• cabjf

  I could see that perception. On the other hand, how many people will get out of your way without thinking about it when you're driving a black or white Impala down the highway? I think what happened was Ford built the new Taurus and realized they had also produced the perfect police cruiser, probably without explicitly trying to. It's just that the improvements being made at Ford to the drive, fuel economy, and reliability of its vehicles converged on their most recent attempt at a full-sized sedan.

• jasnagra

  why can't ford call the new taurus crown vic istead ending the legendry line up.
  on the other hand it's an oppertunity for chev to bring back chev caprice.

  jas nagra

• http://www.facebook.com/people/Shahzad-Shakir/54902152 Shahzad Shakir

  Great. If they have the SHO model, it'll be a lot harder to get away from. One thing you could always count on is that the crown vic could never keep up with modern day coupes around the corners.

• gus the grouter

  Ford does build another RWD sedan that IS currently in use in Police service in particularly varied conditions. It is fast modern and powerful and can be had with 6 cylinder, 6 cylinder turbo and V8 engines. It has fully independent suspension, 5star crash rating, BIG brakes even on the standard model and has been engineered to handle and compete with the Holden Commodore/G8. It is even built in an english speaking, stable democracy that was part of the coalition of the willing. The Ford Falcon! Wow, not invented in the US though so I gues it doesn't rate a mention….

• Jo Blow

  The taurus was never cool. But I agree keep the Crown Vic they're so easy to spot.

• LEO

  When talking of replacing the Crown Victoria Police Package with anything, the main problem is that in this case size does matter. This is ultimatley where the Charger and the Impala have both fell short. The Crown Victoria is not only a sturdy, reliable vehicle…both tried and tested over years of abuse, but it is the only vehicle left in the police vehicle segment (with the exception of the more expensive SUV's like the Tahoe) boasting enough passenger and storage space to conveniently act as a fleet patrol vehicle.
  Today police are issued with more tools and equipment then ever before. A normal patrol vehicle trunk is full of electronics for the radio system and light package, shovels, fire extinguishers, pry bars, pylons, flares, haz-mat bags, first aid kits, usually a spare tire (but not always) and who knows what else. All of this stuff has to be stored somewhere safely. Long guns, computers, radio's and other electronic devices such as radar has to be mounted safely in the driver's compartment and made secure as not to become a projectile in a collision. Ok now fit two 6 foot plus men in body armor and duty belts into that vehicle as well. Did I mention you have to put a prisoner in the back seat…so that means a cage right behind the driver's seat…and you better leave a little room so that your uniform hat doesn't get crushed or the chief will have your butt in a sling. So like I said Size does matter. Whatever the new police package will be think big.

• ajjohnson

  I GUESS YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN ONE OF THE 2006 UP VICs IN A HIGH SPEED PURSUIT. I CAN TELL YOU IT WILL HANG W/ “MODERN DAY COUPES” W/O A PROBLEM. I LOVE IT WHEN I HEAR THESE GUYS TALK ABOUT HOW THEY ARE ABLE TO GET AWAY FROM THE COPS. LISTEN IT'S NOT THAT YOU CAN GET AWAY MOST DEPARTMENT DON'T WANT US CHASING STUPID PEOPLE FOR TRAFFIC CRIMES BECAUSE OF LIABILTY AND LIFE RELATED ISSUES FOR IDIOCY. ANYWAYS, FOR A LARGE CAR I CAN TELL YOU IT THINKS IT'S A SMALL CAR. IT HANDLE VERY WELL AND THE HARDER YOU PUSH IT THE BETTER! IF FORD IS GOING TO CHANGE THIS CAR THEY BETTER MAKE IT AS DURABLE AND STRONG AS THE CURRENT VIC OR THEY WILL SEE RED!

• Kenno2429

  I have been in Law Enforcement for nearly 16 years and have driven primarily the Ford Crown Vic. I have driven the older Chev Impalas but the Crown Vic really is a cut above the rest. Our department has bought a couple Chev Tahoe 4×2 for squad packages and they seem to be performing quite well. Offers better warranty than Ford but I am a little cautious about having a Taurus as a squad package. I am 6'4″ and all of 270 pounds, I am concerned that there will not be much interior room for officers. Ford needs to design a better suspension package like the Dodge Charger, it blows the doors off the Crown Vics. Oh ya, put the 5.4L motor in the crown vics as standard, the 4.6L has been in there for years and needs to be upgraded to the bigger V8. Thanks

• John v

  Police departments NEED the Crown Victoria! Not a single car, including the Dodge Charger comes close to the size of the Crown Vic.

  Police Need:
  -A big backseat while still having room in the front
  -A huge trunk that key locks from the inside (enough to fit everything LEO mentioned plus various other eqpt)
  -Some speed but not a whole lot but more importantly a transmission that can take a beating!
  -Low center of gravity to handle intense turns (which is why Tahoes and Expeditions aren't the vehicles of choice–they flip)

  As it is, the newer Crown Victorias are smaller. The newer, the smaller. The 94 was huge compared to the 2000, and the 2000 is huge compared to the 2009. The trunk space, leg room (front to back, not left to right), and cabin room has decreased in size. Its only a couple of inches every year but its noticable.

  Police need a big car. The Tarus wont cut it. Too small in the back. THe only car I can say would work is the Toyota Camry only because it has a fairly large interior but again lacks in the trunk size.

  If Ford makes the seats themselves shorter (not the back but the seat itself) only by maybe 4 or 5 inches, it would make a world of difference. Also, the trunk needs to be that good old, wide, deep trunk that has the shelf in it. These sports car trunks dont cut it. And lets not forget, the center console…The Crown Vic is one of the only cars with the shifter by the steering wheel…if Ford doesn't make that an option on the Tarus…it has no chance of being the new police car. And lets not even mention the width of the car…the Tarus is way to narrow!

  As far as speed goes, most cops dont go over 40mph in an urban/suburban setting and wouldnt need anything over 70. Its the highway cops that need that beast under the hood that will pump out that speed. Even still, speed is a liability and the radios are faster than any car designed.

  So, if Ford made a hybrid Crown Victoria with a v-6 just for the urban/suburban settings, they'd sell like condoms in Vegas….however, they should keep a V-8 option with the 4.6L or bigger just for the highway.

• allen99

  The Taurus is just the Ford 500 that floped and ford used the Taurus name to boost sales. If they keep the crown vic close to what it is now then we don't have to buy new cages and other equipment to install, SAVING THE POLICE LOTS OF MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

• allen99

  How many years have we been hearing that ford is going to stop making the crown vic. Then the next year they make it again.

• jakeisawesome

  I really want a new Taurus, but not if the cops are gonna get it. That will ruin the car completely. How many people do you know that drive Crown Victoria's?

• Ray

  It sure would be great if these manufactures of POLICE CARS were to ask everyday road officers what works, doesn't and what is needed in a cruiser. They would, in my opinion have a much better ergonomically designed vehicle.

• kajdb

  the only people that can get a crown vic now is a police department moron…

• chiefhiggins

  Its interesting reading comments from those who no nothing of the facts. Federal Roof Crush Standards coming into effect over the next few years would have required Ford to invest millions of dollars in a platform that is 20 years old. Not to mention everything else on that platform thats legacy. It was a great police vehicle but technology has surpassed this old platform and Ford cannot continue its production.

  The Crown Victoria last build is August 2011. The CAW and Ford just reached an agreement the St Thomas plant will close Sept 2011.

  Ford is working closely with it Police Advisory Board and will have pursuit rated vehicles coming out to replace the Crown Victoria. Those cops out there that want interior ergonomics better suited to a police mobile office, well Ford is listening big time.

  Fords EcoBoost technology in a V6 engine can put out more torque and HP then the current Crown Victoria 4.6L V8. It also gets way better gas mileage is emits less GHG.

  People must remember that a car company can only produce a car if its profitable and they have to sell enough to make a profit. Any police car developed will be done off a retail car and modified at the factory for police. Its simply too expensive to just have a police car factory.

  Thats why most believe the “Carbon Motors” super cop car is actually another scheme from Bernie Madoff.

• daveyo77

  Bottom line, we need a purpose built police vehicle, not another retro-fitted car! The crown vic's have been a “bullet proof” vehicle for all these years, but its still a car that the public has been able to drive in the past and has been retro-fitted to suit our needs. In my opinion, this just does not cut it anymore. We need a vehicle that is specifically designed for police operations only! More room for all the equipment (our duty belts), new technology, etc. If Ford is willing to work with Law Enforcement to design this type of vehicle, then they might have a winner? Otherwise, GM may be the new leader with the Caprice and Carbon Motors will eventually be a strong competitor too, but cops must have insight into building a car that cops use everyday, not another vehicle that equipment is squished into and called a police car.

• 344

  I like how you put out the facts. lets face it the only time I get in my trunk is for a car accident. That is not every day. If your too big to fit in a full size car, well lets face it some sit ups wouldnt hurt. We all need to remember we heard the same bitching when the new Vic's came out. Let the smart people make the cars. We should just worry about doing the job. If it has lights and goes woo woo woo as it goes down the road what else do you need. Suck it up and remember your oath. It had nothing to do with what kind of car you drive.

• jreid8231

  With all these vehicle manufacturing plants closing you'd think one mfr would jump in and make a spec requested law enforcement only vehicle that would revolutionalize the law enf community. Build the light bars in the roof line which would allow for higher head room inside the car. Bigger engines with wider wheel wells, police specific interiors with consoles for computers and radios. Now the problem….nobody would ever make any money at doing it because the govts would not want to pay the (I'm certain) slightly higher price per vehicle.

• BJ

  Try http://www.carbonmotors.com/ it's dedictate to police.

• guest16

  OMG A Taurus police car? What a piece of crap that will have to be.
  Criminals everywhere are thrilled!

• zbowser

  the taurus would make a great cruiser especially with the ecoboost engine it would be faster and more fuel efficient especially since cruiser eceiver power improvements, such as the power improvement heads on the 4.6L, it will have the power and durability

• John Belis

  As the Chief Mechanic for the City of Hollywood Police Dept. I have many concerns. One of them being space. If there is a center mounted shifter this would be a costly transition for our department. All of our Havis computer docking stations would be obsolete( after great cost to purchace high quality reusable equipment) We would love to see the interior layout. The Crown Vic has been very durable and reliable, I am unaposed to a better vehicle but this may be costly to maintain two breeds of vehicles, as many of our C/V's will be with us for another four to five years.
  Thanks, John Belis

• gus the grouter

  Ford already makes the perfect large, fast, reliable, powerful vehicle. It is already in use with police forces, you can even get turbo 6 or V8 power. How hard can it be?

• Steve

  While I agree somewhat with your statements, one thing you have to remember is that car we drive 40 plus hours a week is our office. I don't know what kind of agency you work for but I work for a college city full of people. We don't have take home cars and check one out from a fleet every day. The loading and unloading all the crap we have to carry gets old. When you check out from a fleet, people don't take care of the cars. They treat them like crap and the only last 1 to 2 years max. We have had crown vics for years and they just arent big enough for all the crap we have to carry. I guess what I am trying to say is whatever car you drive, it needs to be the best there is. We drive 8 or more hours a day for a living. That car needs to be safe and it needs to be something we can work in. I hate the crown vics mostly because they are too small in the back and with that computer in the middle, view from the windshield sucks. I would love to have Tahoes and wish our department would wise up and start getting them.

  We are an agency that is not allowed to pursue unless there is a life or death emergency. We have no need for driving fast or turning corners at 50 miles per hour or more. We need something that is will work for us and the crown vic just isnt doing it. For us and probably most other departments, space and interior usability are probably the most sought after right now.

• Bill Hlad

  I would hate to see the Crown Vic go away. It is a damned good vehicle. I own two retired P71s. They're easy to work on, cheap to maintain, powerful as hell, and tough as a tank. You just can't beat rear-wheel-drive for such an application. FWDs have problems with torque-steer, which is a major problem on hard acceleration (I'm assuming the new Taurus is still FWD). RWDs don't necessarily have to deal with that. Plus, look at what happened to Chevrolet when they ditched the old, fabulous RWD Caprice in the 90s. They lost out of that particular fleet market for a long time. I've talked to a lot of cops, and none of them have had anything good to say about Chevy's FWD police vehicles. Too small, underpowered, no room, not very tough… God bless you guys at Ford for making great cars, but I think you're about to make a big mistake.

  And God bless all you police officers too!

• richard jones

  need two 2010 ford c-vic police

• fordengineer

  Your wrong! The 2010 Taurus is NOT the old Ford 500! The 2010 Taurus is all new from the ground up and has nothing in common with the 2007 thru 2009 Taurus.

• Michael Deusa

  One problem would be shipping them here and not making them in the United States. Figuring out how to use what is here and making it work would be great. The Taurus AWD with a couple changes would give the Charger something to think about.

• brso3761

  i would hate to see the crown vic to go! my dept. bought some chargers and the deputys that got the new charger are trying to get their old crown vic back. the carger has no room in them and they dont hold up as they crown vic does. this would be a big mistake on ford to get rid of the crown vic many officer's love the crown vic!

• Justme

  The crown vic is a boat, and not a power boat. I would be glad to hand in the keys to mine.

• Scott

  The taurus cool?? Who has ever called the Taurus cool? WOW!

• scott

  yeah I just looked at some pic's and the center stick will not work for me.

• sgumby

  Time for Chrysler to step up and modify the 300 to a Police Package. Let's go boys!

• R. Alan Fisher

  What in the opinion of Omah Rama is it that makes the Taurus a perfect cop car? How many “Duty” miles does he base his opinion on.

• Bill Hlad

  Well, my big question is, didn't Ford watch what happened to Chevy when Chevy discontinued the Caprice and instead offered the fwd Impala in its' place? They lost the market. I have yet to talk to a cop who has anything good to say about the Impala, or fwd cruisers in general. The CVPI is a tank, it is fast and nimble enough for the job, it is proven, most departments are already outfitted to work with them, and it's got plenty of room for perps in the back and a trunk large enough to carry everything they need, outside of a SWAT team. Why not keep the CVPI, and offer it with an optional V6 for, say, constables, or those municipalities that don't have to work the interstates? My old Lincoln did pretty well with its' 3.8 V6 back in the early 90s. Imagine how much better it would do today.

• Lucas Harris

  As an apprentice mechanic, I work at a shop that does all the local work on the emergency vehicles, moslty police cars and ambulances.
  Aside form the odd truck, and one charger thats almost useless (Because its not 2 door, they have to call in another officer to take people away. also cant even get arresties into the saftey or restraint of the vehicle, the trucks are crew cab and are great as well but I imagine the fuel mileage suffers) but otherwise, I have never known anything other than crown vics for police cars.

  And as spacious as they are, I've driven plenty, and once they get all the equipment installed, the compartment divider and everything else, Im always fighting for room. (Im 6'3 but can drive little cars with next to little discomfort)

  I have yet to find myself in a newer Taurus, but if they have even an inch less of space, and i was an officer, id demand one of the truck units, or quit.

  Unless they come out with a vehicle designed specificaly for police cruisers, and moe focused to the task, beyond just having a few custom and re-inforced stronger/better parts, then I think they're gonna error with this decision. However, I dont belive they could make a highly customized vehicle at a cost that the society could swallow.

  I hope they save all those tools and moulds.. lol

• gus the grouter

  The Australian built, rear drive, fast, reliable, sturdy, already in Police use sedan that is a fantastic vehicle. How hard can it be gringos?

• gus the grouter

  The Australian built, rear drive, fast, reliable, sturdy, already in Police use sedan that is a fantastic vehicle. How hard can it be gringos?

• Rick

  As the Fleet Manager for a Sheriff's Office that has about 200 Cv”s at this time and having been with the Dept for over 27 years I think I know what is needed in a Police car. The CV has been great. Low cost to maintain, tough, dependable, and they last. In some cases 5 -6 years in Patrol with 150000 miles or more. But we have an agresive PM program. Our officers have 12 hour shifts so they need a car that has room and is dependable. We are going to buy some 2010 Taurues for Admin. But as they are curently built, THEY WILL NOT WORK IN “PATROL” Period. No head room for tall people. No leg room for the driver for the left leg. I had a 6'3″ officer sit in a 010 Taurus and his head hit the head liner and he could not strech out his left leg. IT WON'T WORK, for patrol. We also have a couple Chargers and Imp's. We spend more time maintaining two Chargers then 12 CV's. And the Chevy's, well just plain Junk. Lets just say I'm very worried about the future. Ford says they are going to build a purpose built Police car. I hope Ford comes thru.

• State Trooper

  My patrol car is a 06 Impala, other then the V6 I love it, I put it through just as much as the CV's my coworkers drive, I am anticipating the Caprice police package. We also have the charger, its fast but all plastic and the traction control does more bad then good. I am interested in the SHO police package, but if its as small as some say I will never fit in it. Has anybody tried or driven one to test it? Has there been one built with a police package yet?

• jd

  i have a 2001 cvpi that is stock with bf goodrich tires that handles like a rollercoaster on rails around corner u have no clue what u r talking about. love the p71's.

• Tony

  i'd preferred the Crown Vic as a police interceptor. It's been an icon for law enforcment for nearly 20 years and they are tough! Maybe Ford can do a redesign on the Crown Vic so that it will be tougher, faster and have better gas mileage.

• doubletaplpd

  ok here my opinion on the current crown vic that i have to patrol in.
  the intierior room is good. it is a comfortable car and reliable. has years of being backed by the police market and parts are plentiful but my main comlainnt is the it is friekin S-L-O-W!!!!! 10 years ago a 250 hp mot in a 4100 lbs. car was good enough to keep up with the vast majority of consumer cars, but now your average honda runs 130 or more and runs a 16 to 15 seconds quarter mile. which translates into phyco soccer mom can smoke me in her grocery getter, or in my particular case mr 15 year old thief can steal a dodge one ton dually and give my crown vic all she wants. this car need at least 350 hp for as heavy as it is not including the air brake light bars we put on them. it also needs multi piston brakes with slotted rotors for better brake performance and better rotor warping protection. also my upgrade to a IRS as the live axle tends to let go too easy in wet conditions.
  as far as the new taurus sho goes i think it looks real cool but i have serious doubts on whether or not the twin turbos would have reliablilty issues when they were put into duty use. if you take them off you right back in the same under powered situation you are in right now with the current crown vic. simply put ford does not listen to the consurmer market. ive looked at the new chevy ppv and it seems like they have done thier homeowrk. it was as much room as the current crown vic, if not more. purpose designed interior. it had IRS 6 speed auto trans., 355 hp engine. push rod motor ls series engine, the most reliable v8 chevy has ever produced. anyway ill stop thier though i could go one. ford needs to step up to the plate and do what chevy has done and attempt to give use something that we ask for and not try and tell use we they think we need. if they dont they diserve to lose the hold on the market.

  just my thoughts take em or leave em

• Ronnie

  Ford has been working with law enforcement reps for several years now. It is called the Police Advisory Board. It is made up of Police Officers, Police Administrators, and Fleet Managers from all over the country.

• GRonan

  Why in the world would you change up on a working platform. The Crown Vic works well, the Dodge is fast, but thats where it ends. The front wheel drive Chevy's are junk, plain and simple! can't comment on the new Chevy because I have not seen or driven one. I have seen the Carbon Motors E-7, If they can get that platform together it might work. I think Ford should do some serious soul searching before they stop making Crown Vics. I cant see how Ford makes a profit on the Crown Vic, mabey thats why they are scrapping them. Im a fleet manager with 27 years on the PD. I have to laugh at all the wonderfull comments from people who have logged ZERO on duty miles in any police vehicle. I would hate to see the Crown Vic go.

• Ranchero

  Taurus looks better? Are you fucking kidding, CVPI looks way better than any other car!
  I can't believe they're not continuing it.

• rescue 374

  365 horsepower ??? Dah the new camaro is turning over 400 horsepower. Not much comparison in a chase there

• spydrix

  You can't fit people in the back seat of the Camaro. So what good would that do. From someone who has driven both, it's obvious you haven't set foot in the new Taurus sho. It might be just slightly slower off the line, but not much, with the all wheel drive there isn't any slippage. And the convenience of all the new features make the Camaro seem like yesterdays news. Now, I like the Camaro, especially the look, but I'd recommend the Taurus sho over a Camaro any day.

• olin

  There is one more thing in our town. The RSVPs in particular, the ones who work in Traffic Divison. They have old worn out used CVs and they function perfectly for the task. In the back there are as many as 50 orange cones, barracades, signs, flares, fire extinguishers, and a bag which has their daily tasks. Almost as much as a police officer might have. When they drive these cars, hand me downs, they are all but worn out. Got one with 120,000 miles on it and considered it a gem, nearly new to the RSVPs. They also have the same electronic equipment as the police officers have, MDTs and radios, and center consols are impossible to use for this. Retooling for a police car seems TERRIBLY expensive for a volunteer group using hand me down and worn out equipment already. The gross vehicle weight is 4250 and the RSVPs load it up to near that. They drive the same roads, the same bumps, and with out the speed, but the same locations police officers go to on TAs and it's a challenge. To downsize to a Taurus would not only be useless and expensive, but the hand me down would be clearly unacceptable. Even a truck won't work for the elderly folks who use these having to climb in the back and pass things out. RSVPS RULE!