Comments on: Consumer Reports: Ford’s reliability is now on par with good Japanese automakers http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/10/23/consumer-reports-fords-reliability-is-now-on-par-with-good-japanese-automakers/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=consumer-reports-fords-reliability-is-now-on-par-with-good-japanese-automakers Auto News, Car Reviews, Live Auto Show Coverage Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:11:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ricky_b http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/10/23/consumer-reports-fords-reliability-is-now-on-par-with-good-japanese-automakers/comment-page-1/#comment-622199 ricky_b Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:30:50 +0000 http://www.egmcartech.com/?p=27248#comment-622199 And don't forget two more points...<br>1) Quality isn't just a measure of how many things go wrong, it's also how you're treated and you problem handled when they do happen. My service expeinces with our Honda and Nissan were vastly superior to my service experiences with my Ford.<br>2) Many people (like me) are bored with Ford's offerings. It makes me sick to see what they offer for cars to people in Europe, then to have them ram another new CUV (future Explorer) down America's throat.<br><br>Ford commercials lately are full of blah-blah sis-boom-ba. "We're less expensive", "we're equal on JD Powers". But you don't make a single Ford/Mercury/Lincoln that really appeals to import buyers, esp if they're looking at european cars. Oh, well. They'll probably be backrupt soon enough. And don't forget two more points…
1) Quality isn't just a measure of how many things go wrong, it's also how you're treated and you problem handled when they do happen. My service expeinces with our Honda and Nissan were vastly superior to my service experiences with my Ford.
2) Many people (like me) are bored with Ford's offerings. It makes me sick to see what they offer for cars to people in Europe, then to have them ram another new CUV (future Explorer) down America's throat.

Ford commercials lately are full of blah-blah sis-boom-ba. “We're less expensive”, “we're equal on JD Powers”. But you don't make a single Ford/Mercury/Lincoln that really appeals to import buyers, esp if they're looking at european cars. Oh, well. They'll probably be backrupt soon enough.

]]> By: Michael Karesh http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/10/23/consumer-reports-fords-reliability-is-now-on-par-with-good-japanese-automakers/comment-page-1/#comment-622200 Michael Karesh Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:10:22 +0000 http://www.egmcartech.com/?p=27248#comment-622200 What CR doesn't say, and that few people therefore realize:<br><br>1. The data are already about five months old, and will be over a year old when many people use them to buy a car next summer.<br><br>2. The average problem rate isn't very high, probably around 18 problems per 100 cars for the 2008s (based on past years; they didn't have a number when asked this year). So the differences between the different "blobs" is only three or four problems per 100 cars. <br><br>For vehicle reliability information that is promptly updated four times a year and actual repair rates (not just blobs):<br><br><a href="http://www.truedelta.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.truedelta.com</a><br><br>Do you want to know how reliable a car was a year ago, when it was a year younger and had 12,000 or more fewer miles on it, or how reliable it has been recently? What CR doesn't say, and that few people therefore realize:

1. The data are already about five months old, and will be over a year old when many people use them to buy a car next summer.

2. The average problem rate isn't very high, probably around 18 problems per 100 cars for the 2008s (based on past years; they didn't have a number when asked this year). So the differences between the different “blobs” is only three or four problems per 100 cars.

For vehicle reliability information that is promptly updated four times a year and actual repair rates (not just blobs):

http://www.truedelta.com

Do you want to know how reliable a car was a year ago, when it was a year younger and had 12,000 or more fewer miles on it, or how reliable it has been recently?

]]> By: ricky_b http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/10/23/consumer-reports-fords-reliability-is-now-on-par-with-good-japanese-automakers/comment-page-1/#comment-612421 ricky_b Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:30:50 +0000 http://www.egmcartech.com/?p=27248#comment-612421 And don't forget two more points...<br>1) Quality isn't just a measure of how many things go wrong, it's also how you're treated and you problem handled when they do happen. My service expeinces with our Honda and Nissan were vastly superior to my service experiences with my Ford.<br>2) Many people (like me) are bored with Ford's offerings. It makes me sick to see what they offer for cars to people in Europe, then to have them ram another new CUV (future Explorer) down America's throat.<br><br>Ford commercials lately are full of blah-blah sis-boom-ba. "We're less expensive", "we're equal on JD Powers". But you don't make a single Ford/Mercury/Lincoln that really appeals to import buyers, esp if they're looking at european cars. Oh, well. They'll probably be backrupt soon enough. And don't forget two more points…
1) Quality isn't just a measure of how many things go wrong, it's also how you're treated and you problem handled when they do happen. My service expeinces with our Honda and Nissan were vastly superior to my service experiences with my Ford.
2) Many people (like me) are bored with Ford's offerings. It makes me sick to see what they offer for cars to people in Europe, then to have them ram another new CUV (future Explorer) down America's throat.

Ford commercials lately are full of blah-blah sis-boom-ba. “We're less expensive”, “we're equal on JD Powers”. But you don't make a single Ford/Mercury/Lincoln that really appeals to import buyers, esp if they're looking at european cars. Oh, well. They'll probably be backrupt soon enough.

]]> By: Michael Karesh http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/10/23/consumer-reports-fords-reliability-is-now-on-par-with-good-japanese-automakers/comment-page-1/#comment-612422 Michael Karesh Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:10:22 +0000 http://www.egmcartech.com/?p=27248#comment-612422 What CR doesn't say, and that few people therefore realize:<br><br>1. The data are already about five months old, and will be over a year old when many people use them to buy a car next summer.<br><br>2. The average problem rate isn't very high, probably around 18 problems per 100 cars for the 2008s (based on past years; they didn't have a number when asked this year). So the differences between the different "blobs" is only three or four problems per 100 cars. <br><br>For vehicle reliability information that is promptly updated four times a year and actual repair rates (not just blobs):<br><br><a href="http://www.truedelta.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.truedelta.com</a><br><br>Do you want to know how reliable a car was a year ago, when it was a year younger and had 12,000 or more fewer miles on it, or how reliable it has been recently? What CR doesn't say, and that few people therefore realize:

1. The data are already about five months old, and will be over a year old when many people use them to buy a car next summer.

2. The average problem rate isn't very high, probably around 18 problems per 100 cars for the 2008s (based on past years; they didn't have a number when asked this year). So the differences between the different “blobs” is only three or four problems per 100 cars.

For vehicle reliability information that is promptly updated four times a year and actual repair rates (not just blobs):

http://www.truedelta.com

Do you want to know how reliable a car was a year ago, when it was a year younger and had 12,000 or more fewer miles on it, or how reliable it has been recently?

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