Comments on: Mercedes S400 well on its way to take on Lexus LS hybrid http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/02/06/mercedes-s400-well-on-its-way-to-take-on-lexus-ls-hybrid/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=mercedes-s400-well-on-its-way-to-take-on-lexus-ls-hybrid Auto News, Car Reviews, Live Auto Show Coverage Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:40:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sir Crack Head Alley http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/02/06/mercedes-s400-well-on-its-way-to-take-on-lexus-ls-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-281480 Sir Crack Head Alley Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:10:29 +0000 http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/02/06/mercedes-s400-well-on-its-way-to-take-on-lexus-ls-hybrid/#comment-281480 I am going to sleep. Wake me up in 2013 after Hillary leaves, when Ford comes up with their XJ-H-ybrid Jag with a 6 HP Lucas DC dynamo engine attached to the front left tire claiming it is ahead of Japanese hybrid technology. Can't wait to see the reliability (?) of these Mercs. Can you read extended warranty with loaner car included at lease signup? I am going to sleep. Wake me up in 2013 after Hillary leaves, when Ford comes up with their XJ-H-ybrid Jag with a 6 HP Lucas DC dynamo engine attached to the front left tire claiming it is ahead of Japanese hybrid technology.

Can’t wait to see the reliability (?) of these Mercs. Can you read extended warranty with loaner car included at lease signup?

]]> By: Bill Bugbee http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/02/06/mercedes-s400-well-on-its-way-to-take-on-lexus-ls-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-278392 Bill Bugbee Thu, 07 Feb 2008 05:31:47 +0000 http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/02/06/mercedes-s400-well-on-its-way-to-take-on-lexus-ls-hybrid/#comment-278392 You've got to be kidding..."S400 hybrid well ahead of the Lexus LS hybrid". Toyota's hybrid synergy drive technology is still 3-5 model years ahead of anything the Germans or Detroit can deliver - they're all still chasing the Japanese. Nice first try, but the S400 Mercedes is equipped with only a 20 horsepower electric engine - why bother. The Lexus / Toyota hybrid models come with a range performance enhancing electric drive systems that range from 50HP to 67HP (model dependent). The article also fails to clarify if Mercedes employs a dual power hybrid system design or a just the so-called "light-hybrid" configuration (the electric motor and gas engine do not operate fully independent of each other). Toyota's dual-mode power system design optimizes efficiency of the electroic drive and produces the lowest emissions - enabling pure EV performance at lower speeds. But, kudos to MB for the lithium-ion battery pack -- it's a start for the Germans, but the must first dump their obsession with dirty diesels and drivetrain technology of the last century in order to address the challenges of today's marketplace. They can also learn a thing or two from Fisker and Tesla start-up companies. You’ve got to be kidding…”S400 hybrid well ahead of the Lexus LS hybrid”. Toyota’s hybrid synergy drive technology is still 3-5 model years ahead of anything the Germans or Detroit can deliver – they’re all still chasing the Japanese.

Nice first try, but the S400 Mercedes is equipped with only a 20 horsepower electric engine – why bother. The Lexus / Toyota hybrid models come with a range performance enhancing electric drive systems that range from 50HP to 67HP (model dependent).

The article also fails to clarify if Mercedes employs a dual power hybrid system design or a just the so-called “light-hybrid” configuration (the electric motor and gas engine do not operate fully independent of each other). Toyota’s dual-mode power system design optimizes efficiency of the electroic drive and produces the lowest emissions – enabling pure EV performance at lower speeds. But, kudos to MB for the lithium-ion battery pack — it’s a start for the Germans, but the must first dump their obsession with dirty diesels and drivetrain technology of the last century in order to address the challenges of today’s marketplace. They can also learn a thing or two from Fisker and Tesla start-up companies.

]]> By: DrFill http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/02/06/mercedes-s400-well-on-its-way-to-take-on-lexus-ls-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-278275 DrFill Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:52:25 +0000 http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/02/06/mercedes-s400-well-on-its-way-to-take-on-lexus-ls-hybrid/#comment-278275 Yeah, let's calm the frig down. If this car is going to be the base S-Class, I don't see how you compare this to the LS600. They will have very difference markets, and performance. It's easy to get high economy, if you take out power. Let me know when to get impressed. This is not a LS600 competitor. DrFill Yeah, let’s calm the frig down.
If this car is going to be the base S-Class, I don’t see how you compare this to the LS600.
They will have very difference markets, and performance.
It’s easy to get high economy, if you take out power.
Let me know when to get impressed.
This is not a LS600 competitor.
DrFill

]]> By: A http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/02/06/mercedes-s400-well-on-its-way-to-take-on-lexus-ls-hybrid/comment-page-1/#comment-278206 A Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:57:08 +0000 http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/02/06/mercedes-s400-well-on-its-way-to-take-on-lexus-ls-hybrid/#comment-278206 "But let’s not forget that when shopping in this segment, performance figures are not a buyer’s first priority." Yeah, but neither is gas mileage. Way to skew the perspective. Objective observation much? “But let’s not forget that when shopping in this segment, performance figures are not a buyer’s first priority.”

Yeah, but neither is gas mileage. Way to skew the perspective. Objective observation much?

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