Comments on: 2007 Hybrid cars losing fuel efficiency – Toyota Prius drops 20% in city mpg http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/02/26/2007-hybrid-cars-loosing-fuel-efficiency-toyota-prius-drops-20-in-city-mpg/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=2007-hybrid-cars-loosing-fuel-efficiency-toyota-prius-drops-20-in-city-mpg Auto News, Car Reviews, Live Auto Show Coverage Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:44:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Kohook1 http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/02/26/2007-hybrid-cars-loosing-fuel-efficiency-toyota-prius-drops-20-in-city-mpg/comment-page-1/#comment-18830 Kohook1 Tue, 15 May 2007 17:07:34 +0000 http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/02/26/2007-hybrid-cars-loosing-fuel-efficiency-toyota-prius-drops-20-in-city-mpg/#comment-18830 EPA ratings are optimistic (higher than actual) for both gas and hybrid vehicles. So the "gross overstatement of government fuel economy numbers" is neither here nor there because it doesn't say anything about the cost of hybrids compared to alternatives (e.g., conventional vehicles). In any case, I would bet a lot of money that the average Prius owner is much more intelligent than the average American. Though HKaiser is right that monetary costs of a Prius vs a comparable car (4cyl Camry?) are higher, the observed preferences of Prius buyers strongly suggests that they receive utility from emitting less criteria pollutants (e.g., NOX, unburned hyrdocarbons) and GHG emissions whether or not they directly and personally benefit from cleaner air and/or lower risk of global warming. That said, I would argue that they value the cache of a Prius as much as they do the decreased emissions. EPA ratings are optimistic (higher than actual) for both gas and hybrid vehicles. So the “gross overstatement of government fuel economy numbers” is neither here nor there because it doesn’t say anything about the cost of hybrids compared to alternatives (e.g., conventional vehicles).

In any case, I would bet a lot of money that the average Prius owner is much more intelligent than the average American. Though HKaiser is right that monetary costs of a Prius vs a comparable car (4cyl Camry?) are higher, the observed preferences of Prius buyers strongly suggests that they receive utility from emitting less criteria pollutants (e.g., NOX, unburned hyrdocarbons) and GHG emissions whether or not they directly and personally benefit from cleaner air and/or lower risk of global warming. That said, I would argue that they value the cache of a Prius as much as they do the decreased emissions.

]]> By: HKaiser http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/02/26/2007-hybrid-cars-loosing-fuel-efficiency-toyota-prius-drops-20-in-city-mpg/comment-page-1/#comment-6953 HKaiser Wed, 07 Mar 2007 03:28:35 +0000 http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/02/26/2007-hybrid-cars-loosing-fuel-efficiency-toyota-prius-drops-20-in-city-mpg/#comment-6953 Loosing? (Losing is the correct spelling). "Spare no expense to conserve," should be the slogan from the hybrid vehicle. Given the average mathematical skill of the average American, I doubt most hybrid owners have calculated how much extra they actually must pay to own and operate a hybrid, even when using the EPA fuel economy ratings. Given the gross overstatement of government fuel economy numbers, the hybrids are yet even more expensive! Spare No Expense To Conserve! Loosing? (Losing is the correct spelling).

“Spare no expense to conserve,” should be the slogan from the hybrid vehicle. Given the average mathematical skill of the average American, I doubt most hybrid owners have calculated how much extra they actually must pay to own and operate a hybrid, even when using the EPA fuel economy ratings. Given the gross overstatement of government fuel economy numbers, the hybrids are yet even more expensive!

Spare No Expense To Conserve!

]]> By: Jon K. Hart http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/02/26/2007-hybrid-cars-loosing-fuel-efficiency-toyota-prius-drops-20-in-city-mpg/comment-page-1/#comment-6531 Jon K. Hart Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:44:53 +0000 http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/02/26/2007-hybrid-cars-loosing-fuel-efficiency-toyota-prius-drops-20-in-city-mpg/#comment-6531 Hybrids "aren’t as effecient as they used to be?" (&they even mispeld). It at least irresponsible to stop at that comment. The cars are exactly as efficient, & will get the same mileage as before the new test --it's only the gov't test that's changed (as it should have). The Detroit Free Press confused the map for the road... like looking at a new, smaller-scale map & saying that the destination is closer today. Hybrids “aren’t as effecient as they used to be?” (&they even mispeld). It at least irresponsible to stop at that comment. The cars are exactly as efficient, & will get the same mileage as before the new test –it’s only the gov’t test that’s changed (as it should have). The Detroit Free Press confused the map for the road… like looking at a new, smaller-scale map & saying that the destination is closer today.

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